Shay BUX engines.

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  • #32604
    wristpin
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    What can anyone tell me ?
    Were BUX an independent manufacturer and, if so , what other machines were they used in; or was BUX just the name of an in-house made engine ?
    Could ask a similar question re Ransomes and Drayton!

    #32607
    charlie
    Keymaster

    Interesting question.

    #32608
    andyfrost
    Participant

    Angus , I’m only guessing that they were an in house made engine , based purely on the fact that I have never seen them fitted to any other form of machinery , like many others they sourced in the ignition and carbs.
    Nice little engines when running , but the Miller ignitions were troublesome.

    Andy

    #32611
    wristpin
    Participant

    I think, in- house too. My parents had a new Rotoscythe in 1952 and I was deemed old enough to use it. I well remember that turbine like sound – and also the burn on the wrist from the exhaust, acquired when reaching over the machine to the height adjuster knob rather than walking around the front.

    #32612
    charlie
    Keymaster

    Are there any patent numbers on the engine? The original Rotoscythe was made by Power Specialities of Maidenhead. Looking on the patents website might give a clue or answer.

    #32643
    wristpin
    Participant

    Good suggestion, but I didn’t mean to imply that I have one now but I’d been in conversation with a man from Leicester who has two and neither of us knew the answer to the BUX question. I did have one that I took as a trade in when I had the business but I was doing a bit of post retirement de- cluttering and sold it to a chap from Oxfordshire who apparently has a bit of a collection.
    This may be of interest
    https://www.outdoorking.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=63824

    #32803
    hdtrust
    Participant

    Well,here goes,the first engine that Power Specialist used was villiers,A Bux is a villiers under license to Power Specialists, in the first couple of years,then part of the licensing fell away,so that the latter ones,had different parts attached.
    A nowadays term for these engines could be classed as badge engineered
    You mention Ransomes,They have a long history of badge engineering.
    The first engine which was badged was the Simms way back in 1905,this became the Orwell (derived from the river that runs through Ipswich.)
    I suspect the engine you are talking about is the Ransomes 4 stroke which appeared on the Mk 10 Motor Mower or on the MG Tractors.This engine was originally a Sturmy Archer,then a license was bought by Ransomes.
    Ransomes also badge engineered binks carburettors.
    To give another licensing exercise
    Atco
    Chas H Pugh made under license,Senspray carbs, and also Claudel Hobsen carbs
    Hope this clears your head
    Kind regards
    Andrew hdtrust

    #32824
    andyfrost
    Participant

    I’ve waited a few days to reply , I’m rather surprised that none have been forthcoming. The original question was regards to the Bux (Shay) 120cc twostroke engine. I feel it difficult to believe that it has in any way a connection with Villiers , it doesn’t share one common component found on any Villiers engine, likewise the actual design.

    Andy.

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